A short history of the pickup community

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The pickup community started as a handful of men swapping notes on a Usenet newsgroup. Within about a decade it had a bestselling book, a reality TV show, and an industry of paid workshops. Ten years after that, its most famous chronicler said he cringed at the book that made it famous.

Here's how that happened, in order.

Before there was a community: the advice books

Men have been buying advice on meeting women for a long time. Two early books get cited as forerunners of what came later. In 1967, psychologist Albert Ellis and Roger Conway published The Art of Erotic Seduction. In 1970, Eric Weber published How to Pick Up Girls!, which pitched meeting women as a learnable skill rather than a matter of luck or looks.

That idea, that approaching is a skill you can practice, is the thread running through everything that followed.

Ross Jeffries and Speed Seduction (late 1980s to 1990s)

The figure most often credited with starting the modern community is Ross Jeffries. He began studying seduction in 1988 and went on to teach workshops in what he called "Speed Seduction." His methods drew on neuro-linguistic programming (NLP), a set of ideas about language and persuasion that has little scientific backing. His book How to Get the Women You Desire into Bed came out in the early 1990s.

Jeffries was well enough known by the end of the decade to inspire a Hollywood character. Paul Thomas Anderson, writer-director of Magnolia (1999), has said Tom Cruise's character, the seduction guru Frank T.J. Mackey, was inspired by Jeffries. More in Ross Jeffries and Speed Seduction.

alt.seduction.fast and the online era (1994 onward)

In 1994, Lewis DePayne, then a student of Jeffries, founded a Usenet newsgroup called alt.seduction.fast, usually shortened to ASF. It gave men a place to share techniques, post accounts of their nights out, and argue about what worked.

Much of the community's culture took shape in this online, peer-to-peer world: the shared jargon, written accounts of nights out posted for others to pick apart, and later "lairs," local groups that went out together. In the late 1990s Clifford Lee started Cliff's List Seduction Letter, which became an influential independent newsletter. The term "neg," for a backhanded compliment meant to knock someone's confidence, also dates to this period, according to dictionaries.

Much of what got shared was practical. Some of it was already manipulative. That tension never went away.

Mystery and The Game (2005)

The community's biggest moment came from a journalist. Neil Strauss, a writer for Rolling Stone and The New York Times, spent time inside the scene under the name "Style," learning from a Canadian pickup artist who went by Mystery (Erik von Markovik). In September 2005, ReganBooks published his account, The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists.

The book followed Strauss through workshops and into "Project Hollywood," a Los Angeles mansion he shared with other pickup figures, including Mystery and two instructors who went by Tyler Durden and Papa. It reached the New York Times bestseller list and brought pickup to a mainstream audience almost overnight. By the end of the book Strauss concludes that a life built entirely around pickup is hollow, a point many readers skipped past.

Mystery published his own system, The Mystery Method, co-written with Chris Odom, through St. Martin's Press in 2006. Strauss followed with Rules of the Game in 2007. For the people involved, see Neil Strauss and The Game and Mystery and the Mystery Method.

The business years: bootcamps and TV (mid 2000s)

As The Game recounts, Tyler Durden (Owen Cook) and Papa set up their own company, Real Social Dynamics, running workshops modeled on Mystery's but for larger groups. RSD and other companies sold "bootcamps," weekend programs where instructors took paying students out to approach in bars and on the street, along with DVDs, e-books, and seminars. Pickup became a business. See Real Social Dynamics and the rise of the pickup bootcamp.

TV followed. VH1's The Pickup Artist premiered on August 6, 2007, with Mystery coaching a group of contestants through approach challenges. It ran for two seasons, through 2008.

Honesty pushes back (2010s)

Not everyone teaching dating advice wanted to keep selling tactics. In 2011, Mark Manson self-published Models: Attract Women Through Honesty, which argued against the routine-driven style of pickup and for vulnerability and genuine self-improvement. It was an early sign of men's dating advice turning away from technique and toward character.

The backlash (2014)

In November 2014 the criticism that had followed pickup for years came to a head. Julien Blanc, an instructor employed by Real Social Dynamics, became the target of a social media campaign after clips of his seminar videos and his own social media posts spread online. Some of those posts used the hashtag "#ChokingGirlsAroundTheWorld."

Australia revoked his visa that month. On November 19, 2014, the UK Home Office refused him entry after a petition gathered more than 150,000 signatures. Lynne Featherstone, then a Home Office minister, cited his "sexist and utterly abhorrent statements." Blanc later apologized on CNN, saying his material had been taken out of context. The full story is in Julien Blanc and the visa bans.

The Southern Poverty Law Center now characterizes pickup artists as a male supremacist community.

The reckoning (2015 and after)

In 2015 Neil Strauss published The Truth: An Uncomfortable Book About Relationships, about the damage his pickup years did to his ability to commit. In a 2015 piece for Slate, he wrote: "Today, I look back on the book and cringe." He described The Game as being about manipulating for an outcome the other person isn't aware of.

The community didn't disappear, though many of the older forums and lairs went offline and much of what remains has moved to messaging apps. But the mainstream mood had changed. Negging was in the dictionary as a word for manipulation, and "pickup artist" had become, for many people, an insult.

What the history teaches

Looked at end to end, the pickup community discovered something true and then spent years building the wrong thing on top of it.

The true part is that meeting people is a skill. Practice helps. Rejection gets easier. Writing down what happened helps you learn. The wrong part was treating the other person as a puzzle to solve with scripts, pressure, and tricks.

Flow keeps the first part and drops the second. You can read more about the trade-offs in what the pickup community got wrong.

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